Por mais de duas décadas os aficionados do free jazz se
perguntaram por onde andava o baterista Muhammad Ali. Irmão do mais famoso
Rashied Ali (1935-2009), Muhammad protagonizou sessões vitais nos anos 60/70, para depois silenciar suas baquetas em meados de 1980. Apesar de nunca ter assinado
discos como líder (apenas como coautor), o baterista aparece nos créditos de
umas três dezenas de álbuns, junto a nomes fundamentais do free: Albert Ayler ("Music is the Healing Force of the Universe" e “Last Album”);
Noah Howard (“Space Dimension”, “The Black Ark”); Archie Shepp (“Coral Rock”, “Pitchin
Can”); Michel Pilz (“Jamabiko”); Alan Shorter (“Orgasm”); além da longa
parceria com o saxofonista Frank Wright, capítulo mais extenso de sua carreira.
O nome de Muhammad Ali começou a ressurgir na cena em anos recentes. Primeiro, o instrumentista foi visto em algumas gigs esporádicas nos EUA, em 2006 e 2008. Depois, para surpresa geral, apareceu no álbum “Planetary Unknown”, do saxofonista David S. Ware (ao
lado de William Parker e Cooper-Moore): um marco, ele não gravava há quase três décadas. O disco, lançado em junho de
2011, mostrou não só que Muhammad estava muito saudável com seus 75 anos, mas que também mantinha vital energia
para conduzir seu instrumento e dialogar com antigos e novos parceiros. Agora
no dia 17 de junho, Muhammad estará no palco do clássico “Vision Festival”,
em NY, em quarteto com Ware.
Um pouco antes desse pulsante ressurgimento, Muhammad
conversou longamente com a All About Jazz. A entrevista, conduzida por Clifford
Allen, foi editada no dia 7 de julho de 2010 e permite percorrer a trajetória do
músico em retrospecto, desde antes de adentrar o free até seus planos atuais. Para quem sempre
careceu de informações sobre esse gigante pouco lembrado, essa entrevista é um
presente.
Selecionei abaixo alguns trechos fundamentais. Quem quiser ler a matéria completa, basta ir em All About Jazz:
Selecionei abaixo alguns trechos fundamentais. Quem quiser ler a matéria completa, basta ir em All About Jazz:
AAJ: Having listened to your recordings from the 1960s
and 70, your approach to the kit seems very different from your brother
Rashied's. When did you
start differentiating your playing from your brothers? Was there a specific
instance or a time that you thought you'd like to go in a different direction
with the kit?
MUHAMMAD ALI: "I can
tell you exactly how that jumped off. I was really locked down trying to play
time, and I was very concerned with that because my mentors at the time were
Max and Philly Joe. I had 4/4 in my mind, and [drummer] Sunny Murray was a great friend of mine—we grew up together. Sunny
came back from New York and came by my house, and he said "let me show you
what I've been dealing with." At that time he was playing with [pianist] Cecil Taylor and [tenor
saxophonist]Albert Ayler —he said
"man, you're sounding good, but this is what's happening now. "We
went into the studio that Rashied and I had in the house, and he started
playing and I said "what's going on? What's all this you're doing?" He'd totally changed
the structure of the drums to something else. He said "this is what's
happening now, and this is what I'm doing." Rashied was living downstairs
and I called him to come up and see what Sunny was up to. Sunny was basically
the first avant-garde drummer that I heard, and I said that this was something
I could feel and relate to."
AAJ: There
was criticism at the time against musicians who were playing the "New
Thing," that perhaps they couldn't play time or play bebop very well, and
that's why they wanted to play free. But since you're coming from a very heavy
time perspective, obviously your response was different.
MA: "That's why I was able to go into a method of
playing that took me away from some of the other people who played free jazz—I
knew how to swing and was very committed to that, and I feel like this music
should be swung. I don't
want an avant-garde that's just making sounds; it has to have structure for me.
I come from a long line of bebop players, and for me it's not about making a
bunch of noises but about playing and taking it somewhere. A bassist can be
free enough to walk as well, and a horn player can be free enough to play and
not feel that I'm going to restrict him to time, but I'm not going to take the
melody away from him either by just booming and banging. I want players to head
the way they're heading and find themselves.
"During the
time I played with [alto saxophonist]Noah Howard, we did a gig with [trumpeter] Donald Ayler and Beaver Harris on drums, a double-drum thing at Town Hall. It
was a great concert, and Beaver came up and was explaining something about me
to some other people, and he said 'Muhammad is the Max Roach of free
jazz' and his considering me in that way was important."
AAJ: Any
plans to record again?
Photo credit: Ken Weiss